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Tue, 02/26/2019 - 05:10

The modern building in the background looks familiar.  Does it also feature on the left of the next but one photograph?  Could it have been taken on Queen's Road East looking towards its junction with Hennessy Road?  (Andrew S)

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1953
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Hi T and Moddsey,

I have just located Monmouth Path on Google Earth.  I had never heard of it before but it does tie in quite nicely with the area where I expected this photograph and the tram one to have been taken.  The building which you suggest was probably the Rodney Block reminds me of the area on the North side of Queens Road East, but checking on my own photogaphs of that area I see that by 1957/8 when I was there a huge block of police flats had been built, so my memory is probably at fault.  On which side of which street was the Rodney Block?

 Best wishes Andrew

Thank you Moddsey.  It's good to know that my memory of over 60 years ago is stilll reasonably intact. What a pity I didn't choose to load cheaper black and white film into my camera and take many more photographs.  I guess that, then, I didn't understand historical perspective and just took so many interesting (now) buildings and places for granted.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing! Seeing your photograph '1950s Queensway' gives my memory quite a nudge and I can almost see my pals and I walking down that street.

Pals
Pals, by Andrew Suddaby

Mind you, I don't recall the tram tracks having that big bend in 1957/8.  I think that Rodney Block is on the extreme left of my 1957/8 photograph below. 

Police Flats and Rediffusion.
Police Flats and Rediffusion., by Andrew Suddaby

Best wishes, Andrew

Hi ymsitt,

An interesting thought.  You could be correct.  My only doubt is whether Peter Keeley ever went as far into Kowloon as Chi Wo Street.  Living at Little Sai Wan in the far North East of the Island we tended to stay on the island or go over occasionally to the Tsim Sha Tsui area. I guess that the real clue to the location of the Tadpole Ah Yuen shop is the impressive building just visible at the bottom right of Peter's photograph, which does look like the South Kowloon Magistracies building on Google and Google Earth Streetview.  In that case the image should not appear in the same context as those taken by me on Queens Road East near the old police flats and Arsenal street.

Chi Wo Street is located a touch too far west to be able to see this angle of the magistracy, so unless Chi Wo Street used to run through the centre of the DGS grounds, then it's not there. Also the magistracy has a different window configuration at the corner of the building compared to the one in  Andrew's photo.

Hi Phil,

I have a strong feeling that Peter Keeley's photograph must have been taken somewhere on the Island or possibly somewhere in or close to Tsim Sha Tsui - but I cannot recall any buildings like the modern one shown in the distance on his photograph.  I guess that it is possible, but unlikely, that the facade of the building could have been changed between 1952/3 and some date in the 2000s when Google Street View was filmed.

On a different thread - On 7 October, Beylogan, contributed, "I believe it [R.A.F. Little Sai Wan] was blown up in Jackie Chan's Police Story Part Two".  I have now ordered a DVD of that film and am hoping(!) that my long quest is going to be fulfilled.  I'll let you know if it is the case.  Best wishes,  Andrew

 

Hi Thomas.  Yes that is a possibility. In that case the old building containing the Tadpole Ah Yuen shop must have been on a narrow street all of which were demolished to make way for the modern looking three storey building that looks to be part of a Naval or Army compound opposite to the older one that you think might have been the Rodney Block.  Any thoughts?

Tadpole Ah Yuen (left half of the shop front) specialized in ball equipment, specifically in repairing rackets, ball nets, ball pillars, it also custom-made fine steel wire ball nets. Maybe there were some tennis or badminton courts in the area. Wing Cheong (right half) sold wooden chests.

The hostel sign with an arrow pointing into the alley seemed to have a street address on the arrow, but it's a bit too blurry.

Hostel sign
Hostel sign, by tkjho

 

 

I think Thomas has got the area correct with his first thoughts. In the original photo, the suggested location of the photographer is on Queen's Road East near Monmouth Path looking towards today's Queensway. In the distance, one is looking at this building (Rodney Block has been mooted) on the right below.

1965 Junction of Queen's Road East & Hennessy Road, by eternal1966e

 

 

It has just dawned on me that a photograph that I took in 1958 includes the spot where Peter Keely stood a few years earlier to take his photograph that includes the Tadpoloe Ah Yuen shop sign.  First is the enlarged cropped area and second is the original.  I'm hoping that the enlargement gives a bit better resolution than is visible on the original. I think that the Monmouth path must have been more or less behind the man in white clothes.  Andrew

Queensway Hennessy Rd Junction cropped.jpg
Queensway Hennessy Rd Junction cropped.jpg, by Andrew Suddaby
1950s Hennessy Rd / Queens Road East Junction
1950s Hennessy Rd / Queens Road East Junction, by Admin

This section of a 1950s map recently uploaded by Herostratus in a different thread is intereting.  if the copy below is unclear, the original is very good. One of the old naval / military buildings within the dockyard complex and just North of Queens Road is probably the one just visible in the background of Peter's photograpoh.  Nelson, Howe, Wardroom and Blake are possibilities.  Any thoughts?  Andrew

Dockyard 1950s upload.jpg
Dockyard 1950s upload.jpg, by Crown Lands & Survey Office

Hi Andrew,

Based on the new map and the point of view from QRE, I suggest it is likely the one marked as 'Blake'.  I don't know what that is though.  Owing to my age I have only seen the Rodney Block in the same location before it was demolished to make way of MTR Island line.

T

Hi tngan,

I tend to agree. Blake, as the most Easterly of the several blocks on the map, does seem to be the likely one.  Perhaps some of the very old photographs or maps showing the blocks in the days of the Wellington barracks might shed more light on it.  Andrew

Thanks David,

Yes, I think the block is very probably the Blake block as shown in the centre of this photograpoh loaded by Moddsey.

1920s Cable Car over Queensway
1920s Cable Car over Queensway, by moddsey

Presumably, the building just visible on the extreme right of this photograph stood where the police married quarters stood at the corner of Arsenal street in the 1950s.  Does anyone know what that building was?