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Here is another photo of the Peninsula Hotel which shows up the wartime camouflage colours better. The roofs of the KCR Station also appear to be blotched and darker than normal.
Your linked wartime photo of Arthur Ball's set on Flickr also shows the Pen in camouflage colours immediately after the war. [In Arthur's photo you can see the Japanese had been busy with the camouflage paint. Even the clock tower has been given a coat. MrB]
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1946
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What's that
What's that futuristic-looking round building in Arthur's photo, any ideas? It's a little to the right of the Peninsula, about where Chungking Mansions would be today.
MrB
It might be the Chungking Market
Hi there,
According to the fifth article of this link (http://www.3pforum.com/bbs/thread-4834-1-9.html) in Chinese the site of the current Chungking Mansions had been a market place called the Chungking Market (重慶市場). During the Japanese Occupation the Japanese changed it's name to Chunghing (重興市場) Market so it did not resemble the wartime capital of China, Chungking (重慶)。
I am uncertain whether the description includes the round structure, however.
T
Chungking Market - Confirmed
Hi there,
Further browsing brought me to this article, (http://www.fed.cuhk.edu.hk/history/history2001/japhkesch.doc) which in turn quoted page 104 of this book (http://libcat.hkpl.gov.hk/webpac_cjk/wgbroker.exe?200710261141280156579…)
<資料二> “尖沙咀彌敦道重慶大廈, 當時是弧圓形排列一層高平房式商場, 原名「重慶市場」, 為避免觸犯「重慶」兩字的忌諱(當時中國國民政府是以重慶作為陪都, 被日本人視為敵對分子), 改為「重興市場」。”--<<三年零八個月的苦難>>p.104
If translated, the main point of this paragraph described:
The Chungking Building on Nathan Road TST now was once a circular low-rise market place, original called the 'Chungking Market'............
Both the book and the CU document are in Chinese.
Best Regards,
T
Chunking Market
Hi there,
Sorry, the link for the index search results might not work. For those interested in the book, here is the entry I found in the Central Library page.
Best Regards,
T
正在檢索: 書名關鍵詞 = 三年零八個月
顯示記錄: 第 3 個記錄
書目記錄號碼 897689 <------ seems to be the library index
著者: 謝永光 1928-
書名: 三年零八個月的苦難 / 謝永光著.
出版者: 香港 : 明報, 1994.
稽查項 436 頁 : 插圖 ; 20 公分.
備註: 含參考書目.
標準號碼 9623576706 <------ seems to be the ISBN number
this is a great photo of the
this is a great photo of the the area from the govt website - looks like a building behind chungking mansions replaced it, or maybe they both did. Anyone know what the building behind the old YMCA was?
http://hkclweb.hkpl.gov.hk/hkclr2/object?svc=objrtv&src=CM&itemid=AHH11….. can anyone download this. I can't at the moment
View of TST from HKPL
The photo Sentinel refers to above. Sentinel, nice shot - did the original page give any date?
Probably somewhere in the late 1950's
Hi there,
My estimate is, it might have been taken in the late 1950's. My former employer started out in 1966 in an office in Ocean Terminal. From the photo the Ocean Terminal wasn't there yet.
Best Regards,
T
On second thought......... The Star House construction site...
Hi there,
On second thought, giving the construction site of Star House had been boarded up as shown in the photo, it was more likely be taken somewhere in the last few years of the 1950's and the first few years of the 1960's.
The Star House is well known to be built by Mr Fok Ying Tung in the early 1960's, but was sold to Hong Kong Land soon after it's completion owing to the difficulties of getting telephone lines installed.
I will check the foundation stone of Star House the next time I go there and see if there are further clues. ie. if there is one. :-)
Best Regards,
T
Star Ferry
The picture was taken at an unknown date after 18th March,1957.
1964 or earlier
You can see the TST-East reclamation is underway in the distance. The 'Mapping Hong Kong' book has an air survey photograph of Kowloon dated 1964. In the survey photo, the reclamation looks to be more complete than in the photo above.
MrB
Chungking Market
Hi T, Thanks for identifying the building. I'm curious to know how you did it - you're very quick at locating these old photos!
Cheers, MrB
Identifying Chungking Market
Hi there,
I was just bored in the office yesterday and the BOSS was not around :-P, so I fired up Firefox and try to use Google for some keyword search. I search in Chinese and I think I hit something while using "戰前 +重慶大廈" or similiar combination of other phrases and get those document links I quoted. The rest was just more cross reference with Wiki.......
Best Regards,
T
Earlier than 1964 indeed.
Hi there,
The aerial photos in the book were taken on or before 1964, as mentioned in the Preface. I just browse page 52 for Tsimshatsui again and found by the time they took that picture, the construction of the Ocean Terminal had already taken place. As for Star House shown in the same photo, it seems they are working on it's foundation and/or the basement. Pity, they do not have the information of the individual photos.
As for TSTE, I remember back in the late sixties/early seventies there had been temporary structures resembling a barrack between Chatham Road and the railroad tracks. Those could be found in the same page. These same temporary metal tube look alike structures could also be seen in Causeway Bay where the Central Library now lies (It used to be the Army's football field).
Best Regards,
T
Identifying
Aha! I'm missing out on a lot of good information by not reading Chinese. Glad to have some regular visitors like yourself who can help access the Chinese-language information.
Regards, MrB
1963
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Sands Theatre
As the Sands Theatre is visible in the photograph,the photograph was probably taken in late 1963 or early 1964.
The Sands Theatre opened to business on 19th July,1963.
It might be the Chungking Market
Regarding the Chungking Arcade, there is an article by Mr. Cheng Po Hung from a Chinese newspaper web site.
The photo the following article is referring can be found in http://image.wenweipo.com/2007/10/11/ed1011c3.jpg
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A similar photo can also be found in Hedda Morrison's collection taken in 1946 which the Chungking Arcade can actually be seen (the one storey building next to the Rose Hotel on the left) though the round shaped structure is not in the photo.
http://www.heddamorrison.com/hm/images/kp_photo/011D.jpg
Rose Hotel
A street-level view to complement the Hedda Morrison photo mentioned above.
A color photo from the 50s
A color photo from the 50s of Chungking Arcade has been unearthed. Please follow the link and find post #206. The photo was taken at the entrance of Chungking Arcade. The round space structure can also be seen.
http://www.uwants.net/viewthread.php?tid=5963360&page=14&extra=page%3D1
Good find
Thanks for the link to the Chunking arcade photo.
MrB
Star Theatre
Here is another one which I think from the same batch of photos. The photo shows the Star Theatre (later itt was rebuilt and become Sands Theatre) at Hankow Road and Peking Road. The TST in the 50s really had the feel of small American town; that weren't too many Chinese signs and shops were very colorful.
Follow the link and find post #278
http://www.uwants.net/viewthread.php?tid=5310056&extra=page%3D3&page=19