30 July 5 1935 Jacob Van Der Lely (sic) in passenger list arrived at Victoria BC Canada from Yokohama Japan via Hong Kong on the Empress Japan. He was recorded as engineer born Maasland Holland . Last place of residence Japan Passport issued Hong Kong 23 June 1935. There are two identical entries for this same event. On both a thick black line covers his age but it has been transcribed as 31 on one record and 51 on the other. So dob was about either 1884 or 1904.
However on 23 September 1935 Jacob Vanderlely (sic) age 31 engineer arrived in Southampton from New York en route to Holland. The date has been mistranscribed on Ancestry as 1936 but is clearly 1935 on the passenger list.
And on 17 November 1948 Jacob Vanderlely (sic) age 44 born Maasland Holland arrived by air in Houston Texas USA c/o Caribbean Petrol Company. Place of embarkation Balboa
The date of birth is most likely circa 1904 and he was unaccompanied on the journeys above.
Could this be him?
1941 Jurors List Lely van der Jack Engineer Hong Kong & Whampoa Dock Co. Ltd.
In many public records the surname is Lely van der
The DOB I've seen for him on a Stanley Camp list is 1885. It wasn't uncommon to adjust ages by a few years, but 20 years seems a lot more than usual, so I'm not sure how to explain the different dates above.
He did survive Stanley, so that 1884-1968 record looks like the same person. I suppose there could be a father and son with similar names, but it seems more likely they all refer to the same person.
Here are likely matches from the Jurors Lists. The first is in 1918:
c
Lely
Jacques van der
Mechanic
Alex. Ross & co
6
Wing Ning Street
He next appears in the list for 1925:
c
Van Der Lely
Foreman
China Sugar Refining Co., Ld.
19
Morrison Hill Road
Then in the 1926 list he returns to the earlier name format:
c
Lely
Jacques van der
Foreman
China Sugar Refining Co., Ld.
20
Ewo Street
He has the same details in the lists for 1927 and 1928. The next list we have transcribed is 1941, with another change of name spelling:
He seems to have altered his name. Did he do the same for his children? Annie, Angie and Connie are not typical Dutch names. I have found a Cornelia. Could she have been Connie?
Angie is probably Anjje
Jacques Bruin Marie LELY van der 27 Jan 1895 - 13 April 1993 ?
The names of the children - Annie, Connie, etc - are how they were referred to in Barbara Anslow's diary, so they're likely to be informal nicknames rather than their official names.
So can we say the Jacob, born c.1904, who worked for Shell Oil is a different person from the Jacob born c.1885 who was in Stanley Camp, and that we can ignore references to c.1904 Jacob like the Caribbean Petrol Co. mention in 1948?
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Jacob Vanderlely/ Van Der Lely
From US Border Crossings from Canada to US
30 July 5 1935 Jacob Van Der Lely (sic) in passenger list arrived at Victoria BC Canada from Yokohama Japan via Hong Kong on the Empress Japan. He was recorded as engineer born Maasland Holland . Last place of residence Japan Passport issued Hong Kong 23 June 1935. There are two identical entries for this same event. On both a thick black line covers his age but it has been transcribed as 31 on one record and 51 on the other. So dob was about either 1884 or 1904.
However on 23 September 1935 Jacob Vanderlely (sic) age 31 engineer arrived in Southampton from New York en route to Holland. The date has been mistranscribed on Ancestry as 1936 but is clearly 1935 on the passenger list.
And on 17 November 1948 Jacob Vanderlely (sic) age 44 born Maasland Holland arrived by air in Houston Texas USA c/o Caribbean Petrol Company. Place of embarkation Balboa
The date of birth is most likely circa 1904 and he was unaccompanied on the journeys above.
Could this be him?
1941 Jurors List Lely van der Jack Engineer Hong Kong & Whampoa Dock Co. Ltd.
In many public records the surname is Lely van der
The DOB I've seen for him on
The DOB I've seen for him on a Stanley Camp list is 1885. It wasn't uncommon to adjust ages by a few years, but 20 years seems a lot more than usual, so I'm not sure how to explain the different dates above.
Jacob Lely van der
Burial records Maasland Holland
Jacob Lely van der (sic) born 5 September 1884 died Maasland 19 April 1968
Could this be him?
Did he survive Stanley incarceration?
He did survive Stanley, so
He did survive Stanley, so that 1884-1968 record looks like the same person. I suppose there could be a father and son with similar names, but it seems more likely they all refer to the same person.
Here are likely matches from the Jurors Lists. The first is in 1918:
He next appears in the list for 1925:
Then in the 1926 list he returns to the earlier name format:
He has the same details in the lists for 1927 and 1928. The next list we have transcribed is 1941, with another change of name spelling:
Jack/Jaques/Jacob
He seems to have altered his name. Did he do the same for his children? Annie, Angie and Connie are not typical Dutch names. I have found a Cornelia. Could she have been Connie?
Angie is probably Anjje
Jacques Bruin Marie LELY van der 27 Jan 1895 - 13 April 1993 ?
Jacob Van der Lely
On 29 Oct 1946 the following family took an air flight from Amsterdam to New York in transit to Columbia.
Jacob Van der Lely 44 b Maasland Holland Shell Oil Company, Mrs Mary S P Van der Lely, Ary Jan (sic) age 8, Peter Jacob age 7 and Marie Sophie age 4
The names of the children -
The names of the children - Annie, Connie, etc - are how they were referred to in Barbara Anslow's diary, so they're likely to be informal nicknames rather than their official names.
So can we say the Jacob, born c.1904, who worked for Shell Oil is a different person from the Jacob born c.1885 who was in Stanley Camp, and that we can ignore references to c.1904 Jacob like the Caribbean Petrol Co. mention in 1948?