Miramar [1978- ]

Submitted by David on Mon, 06/08/2015 - 20:10
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68, Deep Water Bay Road

Previous place(s) at this location
68, Deep Water Bay Road [????-????]
Later place(s) at this location
Miramar (2nd Gen) [1978- ]

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Miramar ? Is that Ocean Park ?
1972
Mirimar
1972
Mirimar
1972
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My parents lived in a house at Deep Water Bay called "Miramar" before the war.  In fact, I think they were living there at the time of the Japanese invasion.

Dear Adrienne,

That's interesting to know. Please do you know if the location of that house matches the location on the map above?

Then did your parents end up in Stanley camp? If so they may appear on the list of internees, http://gwulo.com/list-of-person?tid=WW2%3A+Interned+at+Stanley+Camp&tit…, though it's a work in progress and not complete yet.

Regards, David

Hi David,

I do not know if the site actually fits.  I only remember my mother telling me that she used to go swimming every day with her dogs to the little island opposite.  My mother was interned at Stanley.  Her professional name was Carol Bateman and her old dancing school at the Helena May is still going strong.  She organized ballets at the camp.  My father survived  the Lisobn Maru and was a POW in Japan.

Best regards

Adrienne

 

 

 

 

 

Adrienne, do you recall if your parents sold or rented Miramar to a shipping company after the Japanese occupation? 

I ask because I recently saw a 1960s directory that listed the resident of 68 Deep Water Bay as the managing director of the major shipping company, Wallem Group.  The company's previous managing director had lived in the first-generation Skyhigh (http://gwulo.com/node/26505), which I had been researching.

If your mother went swimming to the island opposite, she would have a quite a walk just to reach the water.  Looking at the foliage and elevation of the current Miramar, it is not possible to walk from the house's back garden directly down to Island Road.

I am sorry, I do not know but I think my parents probably rented the house.  Both were caught up in the Japanese invasion.  My father was called up to join the Middlesex regiment.  According to my mother, she had no idea where he was and the left the house - dogs and all - to search for him.  Apparently, she never returned home.  Somehow, before she was deported to Stanley, she ended up helping out at St. Paul's hospital.  After the liberation, she took it upon herself to walk all the way from Stanley to Deep Water Bay to see what had happened to her house.  She said it was one of the most eerie experiences in her whole life.  At that time, she still had no idea if my father was alive or dead.

Hi David,

I have been going through my mother's old photographs and it seem as if I have made a mistake.  The house they lived in was definitely at Deep Water Bay but on the back of one of the old Photos (1938) was stated that the house was called "Zara".  I shall try to get the photos in but I do not quite know how to do it - shall have to get some help.  Does anybody know of a house called "Zara"?

 

it appears that the owner let it be used for a film shoot before he tore it down and build a new house.

1st Gen to this title.  ... change its date to 1955 - 1978.   ... RBL 667 ...next time I'm at the public records office, I'll find out who the lease was originally issued to.  Thanks.

there was already a place for the 1st gen (pre-1978) here: https://gwulo.com/node/38241 because it wasn't clear how old the "Miramar" name was. The house sign board only gave the address.

If the pre-1978 version was called Miramar then perhaps David can merge the two original places, if not I suggest we keep this one (https://gwulo.com/node/38241) as is.