Chinese lady with children on corner of Pottinger Street

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 20:53

One of the children on this picture is wearing a sailor suit and I am wondering if the Chinese lady on the left could be an amah or a relation. Anybody got any ideas. The picture is in the HK Public Record office and I have also seen it on other websites.

Date picture taken
1900s
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vanessa (not verified)
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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:12

this photo was taken in about 1925.  the little girl on the left next to the amah is maria comenda who later became an accomplished piano player.  maria is (was?) living in the china coast nursing home in kowloon tong (at least up to last year).  she shyly pointed herself out to a visitor in this very photo in a book that she owns and corrected the 1910 date caption

Thanks for that Vanessa. What an amazing identification. Have you any idea of the name of the amah? I ask because she looks remarkably like th only picture of my great grandmther my family possesses and the little boy in the sailor suit looks could also be a family member. Do you know if Maria Comenda had any connection with a family named Olson in Hong Kong? My only problem is that I think th date is around 1910 but didnot know it had been dated as such. If you want to reply to my email address at infohklegacy@gmail.com please do so. Also you may be interested in www.thehongkonglegacy.com

Many thanks.

There's a slightly better resolution copy of this on page 44 of the SCMP's 'Post Impressions'. It shows the person behind the shortest boy, walking up the hill, appears to be a man. But he still has his hair in a plaited queue, which would push the date of the photo back to the early 1910s, or even the 1900s.

The caption given is:

In the first decade of the last century, western fashions were gaining popularity. This boy, pictured in Pottinger Street, sports a sailor suit while his sibling wears the traditional Chinese male cheongsam ma kwa.

Is there anything else in the photo (eg the electric powerlines?) that would give a date to it?

Regards, David

The style of dark traditional dress and plaited queues makes me tend to put the date closer to 1900s. Postcard from Sternberg circa 1900-1910 of the same scene.

1900s Pottinger St

This scene below is from the 1920s. Note the electricity pole is different and the presence of sedan chairs along the side of the street

1920s Pottinger St

There is a zoomed in version of this on the "Hong Kong Old Pictures" facebook group that has the date 1898 on it. It looks as though it has been grabbed from a Chinese documentary program as the date looks like it is part of a subtitle.

The user has qualified the photo with the following comment: 香港-中環石板街1898

Dear reader,

This photo also features in a set of postcards, dated ca. 1910, made by Sternberg. 

You can find the postcard here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/161392673@N02/45602804611/in/album-721577…

You can find the complete set of postcards (almost a hundred) here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/161392673@N02/albums/72157701389199671

Kind regards,

Pieter

Greetings.  This photo might have been taken during Chinese New Year when we visit friends and relatives, and us children receive red-pocket money.  The boy on the far right appears to be wearing a coat filled with a thin layer of cotton typically worn for this special occasion.  The riser in these stone steps are interesting  for their small height - excellent workmanship.  Regards,   Peter

The image of the children on Pottinger Street is almost certainly from the early 1900's, at the latest 1906, and those same children appear in at least three other Sternberg postcards, most recognisably the boy in the sailor suit, who appears in the Sternberg postcard of a Kowloon Punch & Judy show. (Unfortunately I've only seen this Punch & Judy card in books and cannot provide a scan.) On another postcard, of the steps outside the Public Gardens, the children appear with their mother, who the caption calls their 'nurse'. Given that Sternberg's postcards seem to have been produced only before the First World War and not after, a 1920's date for any of them is unlikely. 

That's the one, thanks for taking the trouble to scan and post it. It's a gret postcard and 'true' in that the scene being photographed was real and wasn't one of theose ethnographic studies (opium smokers, fantan players, road sweepers, etc.) taken in an indoor studio with a cloth backdrop to look like the outdoors. It's also a rare postcard - in 20-odd years of searching I've never found this card and have only seen it in a book and one on an Internet auction site.